it'd be more like the client vendor relationship if the waiter tried serving them 11 more entrees after they didn't want to pay for the three they ate ... pre-sales people are only one small step above lawyers
said J on May 27, 2009 5:36 PM.
I am a copywriter, so I am getting a kick out this.
Oh wait, sorry, meant to say that I am getting kicked in the groin by a client, but at least it's within the scope of work. Well, actually it's not, but we really need the income and the agency owns my balls anyway...and the client said that the guys at DDB don't mind getting kicked in the balls--they'd jump at the chance actually.
Also, to be more spot-on, they needed to change their order 22 times before the plate was delivered and send it back 12 times only to decide they liked it how it was when it was first brought out.
Why would this only be understood by advertising peeps, Echo? The same shit flows to all of us; I had it hit me regularly in software development. Most of the time from our own salespeople.
Elkabong's last paragraph sums up every software project I've been involved with.
It's all over the place in the real world. What about people who decide to shoplift from retail establishments and then return the stuff?
I mean, if you're going to steal stuff, at least be decisive about it--and keep it.
I am a solo practice attorney and this is my daily life with my clients. Everyday, they want me to do work for them, but then decide it is too expensive or that "they didn't budget this much for it". They don't do this to their plumber, mechanic, grocery store, or ..... whatever. Always get the money up front
said TPG on May 28, 2009 9:09 AM.
TPG--this is why I don't want my own firm...
but I can reassure you from watching people build houses that they do do it to their plumber, electrician, etc....
people round down the amount they want to pay whenever they feel they can get away with it--it's the service version of shoplifting.
What's bad is that people/businesses start padding their prices because they expect to be underpaid. Then the people who wouldn't underpay don't use them because the prices seem too high.
Aggh, I'd be laughing if it weren't hitting so close to home....
it'd be more like the client vendor relationship if the waiter tried serving them 11 more entrees after they didn't want to pay for the three they ate ... pre-sales people are only one small step above lawyers
I am a copywriter, so I am getting a kick out this.
Oh wait, sorry, meant to say that I am getting kicked in the groin by a client, but at least it's within the scope of work. Well, actually it's not, but we really need the income and the agency owns my balls anyway...and the client said that the guys at DDB don't mind getting kicked in the balls--they'd jump at the chance actually.
Also, to be more spot-on, they needed to change their order 22 times before the plate was delivered and send it back 12 times only to decide they liked it how it was when it was first brought out.
Why would this only be understood by advertising peeps, Echo? The same shit flows to all of us; I had it hit me regularly in software development. Most of the time from our own salespeople.
Elkabong's last paragraph sums up every software project I've been involved with.
It's all over the place in the real world. What about people who decide to shoplift from retail establishments and then return the stuff?
I mean, if you're going to steal stuff, at least be decisive about it--and keep it.
I realize now this applies to everyone, even hookers. My bad.
Shouldn't there be a group of consumers weighing in on this?
At the next diner table, they'd be picking which meal they prefer. Then deciding they still like they've been eating the last 12 years better.
Or the video concept perfected in 1985 just updated with new graphics.
Chiseling hookers? That's just wrong. :(
I am a solo practice attorney and this is my daily life with my clients. Everyday, they want me to do work for them, but then decide it is too expensive or that "they didn't budget this much for it". They don't do this to their plumber, mechanic, grocery store, or ..... whatever. Always get the money up front
TPG--this is why I don't want my own firm...
but I can reassure you from watching people build houses that they do do it to their plumber, electrician, etc....
people round down the amount they want to pay whenever they feel they can get away with it--it's the service version of shoplifting.
What's bad is that people/businesses start padding their prices because they expect to be underpaid. Then the people who wouldn't underpay don't use them because the prices seem too high.