In an odd and almost spooky coincidence, 13 years to the day that O.J. Simpson literally got away with murder, he was found guilty of robbing a sports memorabilia dealer at gunpoint. Sentencing will begin on December 5th.
One cannot help but draw comparisons to O.J.'s conviction with Al Capone getting busted for tax evasion.
One can also not wonder how in the world O.J. thought he could get away with robbing someone at gunpoint. Uh, Juice, your mug was rather prominently featured in the news a few years ago. The cats being robbed may recognize you. They may even call police.
A small amount of actual justice may be coming to Orenthal James Simpson.
Fingers crossed...
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It just goes to show, it's all about the lawyers. OJ didn't have his Mega-Legal team this time.
It was a very telling sign of desperation when OJ's lawyers not once, but twice demanded mistrial. I had fun watching them whining about it outside the courtroom on live tv!
But how can you possibly appeal?
They have it on tape!
"When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far side of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, 'Don't let anybody out of here!' — six very large people detaining these two victims in the room with the intent to take property through force or violence from them — that's kidnapping," prosecutor David Roger said.
At least this time, the two victims were not slaughtered like dogs.
During the past 13 years OJ has been a repeat offender, but until this point nothing seemed to stick.
Would this have happened if it were you or I?
Nah, of course not.
Don't pick up the soap, OJ!
"Don't pick up the soap, OJ!"
Fantastic Laura.
I hear prisons are going to offer O.J. for breakfast sometime after December.
Since getting away with murder O.J. has been tempting fate constantly.
Almost as if he wanted to get in trouble again to spend the rest of his life in jail.
They finally got him on something - he's f****d now.
As a local Las Vegan I was trying to get into that jury pool!
All well!
Justice has been served.
Please don't screw up the sentencing part, Judge!
Good! I hope OJ likes it in the "can". (winkwink, nudgenudge, know what i mean?)
I hope he joins the softball team and is made to be the "catcher". (winkwink, nudgenudge, know what i mean eh?)
It's about time that foul double murderer got some jail time!
well I just hope he gets fucked in the ass often (that is if he doesn't like it)
wink.... ah forget that part
uh, I have a problem with Laura's usage of the English language...or borderline English words....
just saying....
(and I'm not an OJ fan)
I agree with sarcastic.
Ok, just to clarify this for you delicate creatures out there:
Some of you are offended that I used a racial slur, but nobody complains about the jokes regarding forcible anal rape on a convicted felon?
OJ is probably a bigger celebrity in prison than he is in the real world. sad to say he'll probably be treated like a king by the other prisoners.
Pablo - Unfortunately, you're probably dead on with that one. From the outside looking in, though, he'll probably seem more like a novelty act.
Am I the only one that senses we just about have all the pieces in place for a real-life version of 'The Longest Yard'?
Laura,
you are correct....
racist slurs are NEVER funny---but prison sex jokes, or jokes about how he might find the real killers in prison, are....
let me break it down:
Prison sex--yes
racist terminology--no
real killer jokes---yes
Laura - You have the right to say whatever you want; whereever you like. That's what is great about this country.
Just don't be surprised if racist comments are judged a little more harshly and scrutinized a little more closely since it is one of this country's biggest social stigmas.
Besides, don't you see that there is at least some moral distinction between insulting someone that committed a crime versus someone that was born with a skin color you're not fond of?
What happened to Laura's comment?
No, Tim.
You are wrong!
I don't" have the right to say whatever I want" - they deleted my joke!
I may not agree with what someone has to say, but I would never try to censor them or shut them up!
And violent, forcible anal rape in prison is NEVER EQUAL or can be referred to as, "prison sex". I'm speaking to you, Sarcastic One!
No, Tim, you are wrong.
I don't have "the right to say whatever I want" - as they deleted my joke.
Even if I do not agree with what someone has to say, I would not push for it to be removed or censor it in any way.
Question for Sarcastic One:
I still don't see how you equate violent, forced anal rape of a convict ="prison sex"???
Laura,
I am not going to waste my time arguing with someone who had that "joke" in her bag of tricks and was waiting for the right moment to tell it once again...
I may live in the South, but it's not 1862 and that word and its equivalent belongs back in that era....
Wait---you're right...I looked up "prison sex" on wikidictionary and found the following:
"Prison sex. noun, meaning the practice of wooing your fellow inmate in a slow, sensual manner, waiting weeks to make the first move, acknowledging the mutual attraction and then, but only then, making the consensual moves slowly through all of the bases. After years of a monogamous relationship, shaking things up a little with some backdoor activity--but only while using protection and lots and lots of lube."
Uh, no.....
I didn't lobby to have your backward remark removed--I just asserted my beliefs that what you had to say was something that I did not agree with--and if you had spent any time around here, you would know that we battle the perception that there is racism here...I wasn't going to be lumped into your white robe wearing social group by sitting here and not speaking up. Life is too short to not call people out on their stupidity.
I admit, I made an off-color joke and thought that some, not all, people would find funny.
Not every joke is going to please all parties.
But if readers are going to gang up on me until my post was removed, then I question why did they seem ok with condoning the forcible male rape jokes...just don't try to make like we were joking about "prison sex" and not violence, Sarcastic One.
My jokes about "oj picking up the soap" was also distasteful, but people joined in and didn't try to remove that one.
Laura -
I only saw two people comment about your post. Believe me, when you get ganged up on around here, it's by many more than two. I doubt that your comments were removed by any pressure from us average Joe commentors.
OJ is a criminal--has been for years--the product of the worlds of professional sports and Hollywood...believing that he can do no wrong, with the hangers-on who led him to believe that. He literally got away with murder, and there are those on the inside that will take care of that. Others will idolize him.
Your comment about the soap was standard 'he's going off to prison' stuff. That would be OJ getting what's coming to him--and most people will agree that he's a criminal. Prison is not known for being daisies and lollipops and rainbows (unless those words are code for drugs and penises and gay sex)--it's a place where they lock up some of our most violent citizens plus a few who are in for tax evasion and other white collar stuff.
if you think that two people disagreeing with you is people ganging up on you, then you don't have the stomach to stick around here...
The humor around here is sometimes frat boy like...boobs and bacon are the words of the day (not why I'm here, but it's still funny)...anal sex is borderline but falls into that...
racist slurs are not usually a part of the vocabulary, and I for one am proud of that...there are many people that would applaud you for your 'joke'...but I can't.
I guess if people thought one tasteless joke was funny and praised me for it, then I thought it was ok for me to tell another one.
In conclusion:
It's ok to tell jokes until someone gets offended.
For some people, this doesn't take long.
I try to joke and laugh as much as possible in life....even when people personally attack me and put me down. I'm not one of those women in the workplace just looking for a lawsuit to happen. In fact, I actually had a genuine opportunity to do so...once my boss made a joke at my expense in front of the entire office. But I didn't get mad or sue him...I guess I had perfect grounds to do so for sexual harassment.
I laughed my head off because the joke was funny!
I wish i could have seen the racisist joke. I for one do not need anyone to tell me what is ok for me to see and what isn't.
I hate it when people think they have the right to not be offended. What makes that even worse is when the person thats offended turns around and does the exact same thing they were just bitching about. I hate that shit.
That being said, this isn't your site Laura, nor is it mine and if the person who is responsible for this site wants to remove a post that's their right and i totally respect that. I'm sure they had their reasons. If you want to make comments without the saftey nazi's doggin ya, start your own site.
My joke?
They might remove this, but here goes:
The punchline was OJ's attorney said, "No, OJ, we're not going to Cancun. I said you are going to the can, (OOPS!! This word has been sanitized for your protection!)
That's an oldie but a goodie. I heard that joke several times 13 years ago. I even heard it from Black people.
It's hard to believe that was removed but still, it's not my site and i respect whoever decided it wasn't fit for this site.
I did feel a bit ganged up on when their comments succeeded in getting my post removed. I was surprised that it seemed unfit as other jokes were just as "bad."
Now that I think about it, "prison sex" may possibly offend homosexuals in our audience.
I'll just try to watch what I post in the future.
Geez!
In my personal life, I won't stop telling off-color jokes unless people stop using terms as "Nigga" and "My bitches" as part of everyday, acceptable conversations.
Getting back to OJ, the jury wasn't all white.
It also consisted of several hispanics in addition to whites.
Just for clarification, I've been too busy with my kids today to read the site, much less moderate comments. Unless Johnny did it (which I doubt) it was probably the victim of some network outtages at our hosting provider that slowed down the site today.
That's not to say I won't or don't delete comments if the whim takes me, but not today.
Scaramouch - Just so that you know, it was posted for several hours before it disappeared. How that fits into the network problems, I don't know. Just an FYI ...
As far as I know only I and the author of a piece have the ability to moderate comments, although I could be wrong about that. The Movable Type is a bit funky sometimes.. Johnny?
I deleted your attempt at a joke, Laura, because it was racist. The word you used is ignorant not appropriate.
I have no tolerance for racial slurs. None. So it came down.
Well there ya go then, mystery solved.
From now on, I promise to only substitute possibly objectionable words with the word "Maverick".
I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but how did the submission get approved to begin with? To me, if it gets approved, it shouldn't be deleted later. Deleting a 'pink' comment is a different story since they don't go through approval, so I can see how they could be deleted after posted. But in this case ...
Sorry, but I'm big on QA.
I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but how did the submission get approved to begin with? To me, if it gets approved, it shouldn't be deleted later. Deleting a 'pink' comment is a different story since they don't go through approval, so I can see how they could be deleted after posted. But in this case ...
Sorry, but I'm big on QA.
Speaking of QA, all I did was refresh my browser one the 'Submission received' page and my submission was entered twice.
I really did not mean to beat a dead horse twice. That would truly be overkill.
I hadn't checked my mail in quite some time and the comment got approved automatically. Don't know how. When I saw it, I deleted it.
Laura, here's the thing...I have a problem with people using the N word in any shape or form as well...I ignore semi-racist comments from really old people I don't know (customers) (no, not clients--I work in retail) because they are unfortunately are of another generation. If you are under a certain age you don't get a free pass--and my grandparents would make comments and I called them on it--coworkers always know how I feel as well.
That being said, if someone of a certain race or sex or orientation wants to use terminology that describes their category in an effort to "take the word back", that's their business. I still don't like it, but to them it describes them so I can't say anything. I think anyone using the words is weakening the human race, not strengthening anyone. But that's just me. (go ahead and call me a bleeding heart liberal--I'm proud of that fact)
So, as a white person, feel free to say honkey til the cows come home (or until they pee on your porch....)
(sorry--you had to be there--see CLC's forum or Scara's post)...
get creative...you can use words to describe when a person is ignorant, stupid, a criminal, whatever without resorting to using vocabulary that hasn't been cool since the days when minstrelsy music was on the Top 40 countdown...
JW - I have much respect for you. I hope that hasn't come into question here. I also have respect for your right to do what you will with your post; as does Scaramouch have the right to do what he will with his site. Personally, I think that people should be able to say whatever they want, so long as it doesn't pose some kind of physical threat to someone else. That said, I'll admit that there is plenty of grey area in the whole premise.
I just wasn't real keen on something supposedly going through an approval process, only to be yanked back later. It smells of either miscommunication among moderators, or bowing to public pressure. Since I knew it wasn't the latter, I was wondering if there weren't some inconsistencies otherwise.
Not that it's any of my business. Just doing my part to make the site better (or worse, depending on your perspective). An automatic approval after some magical amount of time has passed seems kinda hokey to me. If Moveable Type does that, they need a smack.
Miscommunication between the moderators? Tim, how did you ever fall under the false impression that we were in any way organized or adhered to some kind of agreed protocol? You're lucky we all manage to remember to log on most days.
Scara--wait--your pictures are lined up--I thought that meant you guys were all in line as well....not true?
My world had been turned upside down!
Thanks folks, for the great debate on an otherwise boring Sunday afternoon!
Of course I made an ignorant joke meant to entertain and shock, but ya gotta admit, it was interesting to see how everyone defended their positions. That's what this country needs, more people thinking about things and others trying to persuade them to consider their point of view. Most chat rooms or postings just rely on simple four-letter words, name calling and personal attacks when they simply disagree with a person.
I must admit, I was quite surprised usually coming in with a female name gets the usual: I must be fat, ugly, stupid bitch, can't get a man, be a housewife with 10 kids, live in a trailer park...that type of insult breakdown.
If I posted as a man: I must be fat, bald, asshole, can't get a date, live with my mom, don't have a job, live in a trailer park, "Libera"l or "Republican", etc. if they don't agree.
Let's just keep trying to learn from each other - even if we disagree...
Well, if you ever want to limit your site to nothing but Bacon, Beer, Babes, Monkeys, pictures of Echowood (for the ladies, and some men, but not me), Sports and any comments attached therein, I will respectfully submit my application as official site moderator.
Anything else is too deep for me.
And nobody better say nuttin' bad about Johnny Rotten or else!
Or else... I shall bore you to death with my tirade!
ANARCHY IN THE USA!
And I'm sure that people are confused when I can string several words together, some of them having more than one syllable, when I look like the mudflap girl....
Laura, the guys around here have brains...we have to treat them as such...
No worries Tim. I understand what you're saying. You'd have no more a passionate defender of free speech than from myself. However, I made a decision to delete a word that I felt didn't have a place on our site.
Carry on.
JW
JW...forgot to send you my kudos...I have even more respect for you. It wasn't censoring, it was just maintaining the standard that has been set on this site.
And I am here to lower those standards!
Laura - nice avatar!
Laura....wow---nothing is going to inspire me to study more, spend less time here than your witty comebacks.....
Sorry, Chicklet!
This used to be your turf, but I'm here now!
If you don't want to share, then I suggest that we battle for it now!
(...Laura breaks glass bottle...shakes out her hair....removes blouse...sizes up the mud pit...)
As Kramer would say, "c-c-c-c-c-catfight!"
SMACK!
Sarcastic One: "Now look what you've done! You made me break a nail! Now I'm really pissed!
POW!
Laura's skirt rips off!
CRASH!
Sarcastic One: "You're goin' down, fool! I'm smarter than you because I know more words than just "Maverick!"
KAPOW!
Laura: "Oh, yeah? Well, I've been studying hard at night school, too! My degree is in...BARSTOOLS!"
WHAM!
Suggested alternative title:
"Sarcastic One Gets Her Comeuppance"
Laura dusts herself off, spits out a tooth, and exits the stage.
Geez, the day I actually have things to take care of and look at what I missed out on. Racially insensitive jokes and chick fights. All it's missing is chicken nachos and beer to be the perfect date.
Uh, no catfight....
When Laura's skirt was ripped off (in her head--that's not my kind of move), she reveals that she is really Tim's Auntcle....
Glad to see that her Sally Struthers education has served her so well---she must have taken the Maverick 101 class......
as for me, I'm NOT in night school....I attend a real university and actually have to pick up a book.
But hey, any attempt to better yourself is applauded, so Laura, good luck in your studies....
Sarcky - My Auntcle never wore skirts. Bert was strictly a pantsuit manwoman.
Laura,
Sarcky is probably at class today. I gotta stand up for her, she is dedicated in her studies. You have to respect that.
As far as the smackdown is concerned, I'd keep an eye out for her if I was you. She's smacked me straight a time or two. She won't back down.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll just make sure that I have some cold ones on hand so that I can sit back from time to time and enjoy the show.